tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post2131487600836548276..comments2024-03-24T00:19:48.310-07:00Comments on Delta Vector: Modern Skirmish Gaming (or "Not Insurgents Again")evilleMonkeighhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-76626748167297084182015-12-09T15:34:47.258-08:002015-12-09T15:34:47.258-08:00SAGA has a great idea - the battle boards. It'...SAGA has a great idea - the battle boards. It's unique, and clever. It's just everything else I don't favour.<br /><br />Honestly haven't found anything more useful than LOTR for generic fantasy/medieval. I suggest a change if you house rule: add the Fight value to d6 like early 40K instead of using it to break ties. evilleMonkeighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-58192860703795238792015-12-09T15:25:37.714-08:002015-12-09T15:25:37.714-08:00Hmm...well, as you say, they're cheap, at leas...Hmm...well, as you say, they're cheap, at least via Amazon or eBay. I'm not keen on fixed unit sizes myself, and have never got around to playing Saga, despite having a couple of the official warbands, (and, to my shame, dice sets for warbands I don't have, but not for the ones I do own).<br /><br />LOTR is looking more and more compelling. I do have Lords & Servants, and began reading it, but I really need to get it printed. It's a big file, unfortunately.Jon Snow?https://www.blogger.com/profile/18349064979919474482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-84804854385396807682015-12-09T15:16:49.183-08:002015-12-09T15:16:49.183-08:00Lion Rampant held 0 interest for me. From memory, ...Lion Rampant held 0 interest for me. From memory, reasons were bland mechanisms, fixed but nonsensical units (i.e. 6 cavalry, 12 infantry etc) rather like SAGA, and generic unit types (knight, crossbowmen, yeoman, etc). <br /><br />Upsides were amusing writing style, scenarios and the Warmaster activation, as well as the low price. <br /><br />Basically, LOTR already does everything it does, but is more flexible and better. Nothing particularly new or interesting, so no incentive to buy.<br /><br />If you want something different or interesting, Lords and Servants is my 10c (review somewhere on this blog).<br /><br />----<br /><br />I've scoured the web for Siege of Malta era Renaissance and Ottomans are usually from centuries later. You might be able to cobble together stuff for Knights using the brilliant Perry plastics (Mercenaries, men-at-arms) and they also sell separate heads (i.e. Italian/Spanish style helmets, hats and stuff). evilleMonkeighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-18262936189212379112015-12-09T14:53:40.313-08:002015-12-09T14:53:40.313-08:00Back to the Project Genesis figures: for some reas...Back to the Project Genesis figures: for some reason these are substantially more expensive than Empress's other ranges, at £10 per pack of four, as opposed to £7.50 for the same number of figures in their Modern Combat range. Some of the police figures are even more, at £12, presumably due to the riot shields. A shame, and hard to understand, but we always have the choice.Jon Snow?https://www.blogger.com/profile/18349064979919474482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-24586155883329888062015-12-09T13:52:13.259-08:002015-12-09T13:52:13.259-08:00That genre has never held any appeal for me either...That genre has never held any appeal for me either, but I'm always open to persuasion, particularly when figures have alternative applications, and, like you and other commentators, I'd like to get into moderns, but not into real world conflicts (a feeling presumably shared by most of the military, but I digress).<br /><br />Another digression - apart from having mentioned another Osprey set - is that I've just ordered Dragon Rampant, though it seems not to be released until 20 December. At less than £8 with free postage, at least in the UK, however, it's unmissable. I've seen no discussion of the parent rules, Lion Rampant, here - and haven't played it yet myself - but as you are generally keen on Osprey rules - other than the unfortunate but all-conquering WWII game - was wondering about your thoughts on the system. As you may know, colonial and renaissance rules are also in the pipeline from the author, Dan Mersey. (I actually asked him about a possible renaissance rule set early in the year after having my enthusiasm boosted by reading Empires of the Sea, and he responded that he'd been approached, but didn't think he was knowledgeable enough about the period. I assume he's subsequently taken a crash course in renaissance history).<br /><br />I did manage to get hold of a renaissance set with a similar scope - large skirmish - thanks to a tip from someone on Dan's blog, but haven't done anything with it as yet, other than order the optional card set.<br /><br />Another issue holding me back is that I know of no ranges for Knights of St. John.Jon Snow?https://www.blogger.com/profile/18349064979919474482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-70342867279220632922015-12-09T12:44:54.449-08:002015-12-09T12:44:54.449-08:00You can easily sell me on anything Empress. Their ...You can easily sell me on anything Empress. Their quality is excellent. (Perhaps as it is run by some wargamers wives!)<br /><br />Actually, I thought I had seen them but they have added way more civilians than last time, and some handy vampire/pulp heroes (I'm not a big post apoc fan outside of the small STALKER sub genre; the rednecks, bikies, grime and BDSM side of things does not appeal)evilleMonkeighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-91303751075404535662015-12-09T12:33:22.313-08:002015-12-09T12:33:22.313-08:00I thought Osprey's Black Ops might have some p...I thought Osprey's Black Ops might have some potential, but initial indications are disappointing. As I've mentioned elsewhere, though, Empress Miniatures' new Project Genesis range of figures for post-apocalyptic warfare looks interesting, though there are no specific rules for it, at least as yet:<br /><br />http://www.empressminiatures.com/page95.htmJon Snow?https://www.blogger.com/profile/18349064979919474482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-66807062799304880622015-04-11T01:33:00.837-07:002015-04-11T01:33:00.837-07:00We do have some rules that could handle it, now I ...We do have some rules that could handle it, now I think of it - Savage Worlds RPG is actually a wargame but the basic Explorer's Edition would have enough pulp and modern stuff to get up and going. evilleMonkeighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-8527249963257079532015-04-10T19:47:50.757-07:002015-04-10T19:47:50.757-07:00I personally like making sand box fictional countr...I personally like making sand box fictional countries, so that my real world, fantasy, horror, sci-fi, convictional and unconventional forces can do any thing I want. Can also use for other eras in history.commissarmoodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17453787431294606707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-30834801159979801772015-04-10T11:01:30.649-07:002015-04-10T11:01:30.649-07:00Used to be that Moderns meant Cold War. Now it mea...Used to be that Moderns meant Cold War. Now it means "Afghanistan".<br /><br />I wonder what the next shift will be? <br /><br />As an aside, for "modern fantasy", you could cook up some Doctor Who UNIT based games ;)Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05873440251698488032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-45585887565092040672015-04-10T07:46:04.625-07:002015-04-10T07:46:04.625-07:00Yes and the most interesting conflicts involve suc...Yes and the most interesting conflicts involve such. AdamC1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/02279351293614637287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-9920541541254057452015-04-10T07:32:20.309-07:002015-04-10T07:32:20.309-07:00Oh wait... you can have Combat Mission Black Sea! ...Oh wait... you can have Combat Mission Black Sea! Now back at seeing my Stryker becoming scrap metal faced to T-72B3...Arrigo "the Crazy"https://www.blogger.com/profile/14011138146055102156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-50972531327485420942015-04-10T07:31:26.718-07:002015-04-10T07:31:26.718-07:00Well,
according to the TFL mailing list there is ...Well,<br /><br />according to the TFL mailing list there is also a straight forward modern version of CoC in the forge... said that I can sympathize with the "not insurgents again" state of mind. Also the lower level you go the less distinction there is between insurgents and regulars. A crappy regular platoon will fight as a crappy mob anyway... it is interesting how rules that model point of contact situations (that in the end are more or less high intensity actions) want to throw at you all the "non conventional stuff"... but be happy COIN (without people not even bothering to define what an insurgency is...) is all the rage now...<br /><br />Said that... well not one is so keen on hollow earth or fallen angels... also because once you do get into weird stuff almost everyone has his/her own setting, and a story that appeal to me does not appeal to the 99% of the gamers...<br /><br />Who know maybe Fighting Season will be a good base for you...Arrigo "the Crazy"https://www.blogger.com/profile/14011138146055102156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-47557029563870376252015-04-10T07:23:36.607-07:002015-04-10T07:23:36.607-07:00Said one of DS9's showrunners: "people w...Said one of DS9's showrunners: "people who come from different places—honorable, noble people—will naturally have conflicts". It's always best to have villains who think they're the good guys.A-Historianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10380376544300664923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-18487094401010810652015-04-10T07:18:50.445-07:002015-04-10T07:18:50.445-07:00I agree my main issues with moderns is I don't...I agree my main issues with moderns is I don't want to play terrorists. I like the idea of Modern Pulp a lot, the White Wolf World of Darkness could make a good back ground. I am thinking of Mage the Awakening (not Vampire or Werewolf) where you have Technology based magic on one side and more "traditional" magics on the other. Neither of these is truly the bad guy they just have radically different visions for how the world should work. AdamC1776https://www.blogger.com/profile/02279351293614637287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-25945591972042499992015-04-10T04:05:55.588-07:002015-04-10T04:05:55.588-07:00When they're a bit more polished, I'll sen...When they're a bit more polished, I'll send you a copy to playtest =]A-Historianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10380376544300664923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-6746900491396227582015-04-10T03:53:14.465-07:002015-04-10T03:53:14.465-07:00Sweet! I hate making rules (criticizing them is ea...Sweet! I hate making rules (criticizing them is easier and more fun) and I thought I'd have to add this to the "homebrew rules" pile which I never finish....evilleMonkeighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998198938697175335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8394074963215462822.post-260586827476182812015-04-10T03:28:28.788-07:002015-04-10T03:28:28.788-07:00You'll be happy to know that I'm working o...You'll be happy to know that I'm working on a "weird Modern" skirmish set (called T.H.R.E.A.T.) which includes psychic powers from the ground up, and an unnamed science fantasy game as well - both inspired by your excellent series on games design.<br /><br />Thank you for all the time you've spent on your blog, it's a favourite of mine!A-Historianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10380376544300664923noreply@blogger.com